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Oil cups on heads

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:34 pm
by johnp
What are the oil cups on the cylinder heads for? And how do they work?

Re: Oil cups on heads

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:58 pm
by Mike Rometer
Without a picture it's tricky to be sure just what you mean, but probably what you see are sometimes called 'Tallow cups', That name comes from the days before commercially available, specially formulated, steam oils, when they used just that, tallow. They are used to introduce lubrication into the cylinder on a 'one shot' basis, i.e. at the start of the day, or even as required, but while the engine is stationary. The cup is filled, and with the piston at least part way down the cylinder, the tap is opened and the molten tallow/oil runs into the cylinder, and the tap is closed again.

Re: Oil cups on heads

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:02 pm
by tempus fugit
We call them Fat Ladies :) I fill mine with steam oil and use it when I hear a squeak, and at the end of the day on shut down.

Re: Oil cups on heads

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:08 pm
by johnp
Doesn't the cylinder pressure push the oil out? Or does the engine have to be stopped? Where do I buy them?

Re: Oil cups on heads

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:03 pm
by Mike Rometer
As I said, "while the engine is stationary", therefore no pressure to push the oil out.

Re: Oil cups on heads

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:01 am
by 87gn@tahoe
There are also ones with a chamber between two valves. Open top valve and fill the chamber, close top valve, open bottom valve and allow chamber contents to drain into cylinder, close bottom valve.

Re: Oil cups on heads

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:17 am
by artemis
87gn@tahoe wrote:There are also ones with a chamber between two valves. Open top valve and fill the chamber, close top valve, open bottom valve and allow chamber contents to drain into cylinder, close bottom valve.
And usually with a pause to allow the heat transferred through the cylinder head to the holding chamber to fully melt the tallow into a nice slippery state for better lubrication.