The Steamboating Forum

A Forum for the discussion of Steam Boats
It is currently Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:36 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 86 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:53 pm 
Offline
Full Steam Ahead
Full Steam Ahead
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 am
Posts: 1492
Location: Phila PA USA
Boat Name: Margaret S.
Wintertime again, working on many improvements to the Margaret S.

Building a half size boat on the same plan as the Margaret S. hull. I had spliced the sides and bottom plywood for the half size boat in the summer of 2010, and was going to build this before attempting the full size steamer, just to get some experience as I had never built a boat before. Schedules changed, and I built the big hull first.

Now that Katharine has bought a Kayak, it is time to put together this little boat, probably paddles instead of paddlewheels, but maybe a steam plant for this little one person boat? Certainly is easier to build a 10 foot long hull than a 20 footer.

This hull can fit onto the larger hull for transport. It should be handy during outings, as docking the sidewheeler is so difficult, so now I can just anchor and come ashore in the little boat.


Attachments:
File comment: Frames on Building Table, Epoxied the Chines in place Today, Sides go on Tomorrow
FramesCanoe.jpg
FramesCanoe.jpg [ 104.28 KiB | Viewed 4676 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:24 am 
Offline
Full Steam Ahead
Full Steam Ahead
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 am
Posts: 1492
Location: Phila PA USA
Boat Name: Margaret S.
A short film on youtube. Summer 2011 on Lake Noximixon. Some others also on youtube under "Sidewheel Steamboat"



Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:06 pm 
Offline
Full Steam Ahead
Full Steam Ahead
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:41 am
Posts: 1548
Location: Lopez Island, Washington State, USA
Boat Name: S.L. Folly
Fred,
I've used both the graphite powder and the silica in various applications. If it is abrasion resistance you are looking for, the silica is the way to go. The graphite has worked well for me when I wanted low friction such as a sliding hatch track but it hasn't been particularly resistant to abrasion.
I have a hard bottomed Avon inflatable that gets run up on the beach regularly and the fiberglass was getting worn away along the keel. I built up the worn area with a thick mixture of epoxy and silica filler and it has worn like a rock for years now. Important to get it shaped the way you want it before it sets up as I don't know what it would take to grind it after it has hardened!
Mike

_________________
Galileo - Great mind.
Newton - Genius mind.
Einstein - Extraordinary mind
Me - Never mind.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:26 pm 
Offline
Lighting the Boiler
Lighting the Boiler

Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:03 pm
Posts: 27
Location: Timaru, New Zealand
fredrosse wrote:
A short film on youtube. Summer 2011 on Lake Noximixon. Some others also on youtube under "Sidewheel Steamboat"


Hi Fred.
As a newcomer to the world of steam-boating and have enjoyed the build history and love the end result you are real encouragers, I have a long way to go thanks.
Noel


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:18 pm 
Offline
Full Steam Ahead
Full Steam Ahead
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 am
Posts: 1492
Location: Phila PA USA
Boat Name: Margaret S.
A little more progress on the small hull. Thinking of using sidewheel paddles, with bycycle type pedal power, then I can put in a small steam plant some day, if I live long enough.


Attachments:
rounding chine.jpg
rounding chine.jpg [ 94.48 KiB | Viewed 4633 times ]
attach sides.jpg
attach sides.jpg [ 181.51 KiB | Viewed 4633 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:28 pm 
Offline
Full Steam Ahead
Full Steam Ahead
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 am
Posts: 1492
Location: Phila PA USA
Boat Name: Margaret S.
Weekend Work, got the 10 oz cloth onto the hull, and epoxied in place. Nex steps, some sanding, fill the weave, more sanding.


Attachments:
epoxy on fiberglass.jpg
epoxy on fiberglass.jpg [ 143.45 KiB | Viewed 4633 times ]
fiberglass cloth.jpg
fiberglass cloth.jpg [ 12.41 KiB | Viewed 4633 times ]
ready for bottom.jpg
ready for bottom.jpg [ 9.1 KiB | Viewed 4633 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:25 pm 
Offline
Steam on Deck
Steam on Deck

Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:50 am
Posts: 50
Location: Central USA
Boat Name: To be determined
Fred-

Do you use marine plywood or regular hardwood veneer?
The marine ply seems pricey.

_________________
Pat J


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:17 am 
Offline
Full Steam Ahead
Full Steam Ahead
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 am
Posts: 1492
Location: Phila PA USA
Boat Name: Margaret S.
For the big steamer (19ft-3 in) I used marine plywood, British Standard 1088 Meranti, 1/2 inch sides, 5/8 inch bottom, this costs plenty, but well worth the price if you are building something to last.

For the small boat I used common 1/4 inch underlayment "Lauan" plywood, which should be Honduras mahogany. The Lauan stuff I got has no voids, I don't know if that was just luck? With 10 oz cloth over the entire hull, lower quality plywood is probably acceptable. Most canoe-kayak size boats use 4oz or 6 oz fiberglass cloth, I had the 10 oz stuff left over from building the bigger steamer.

With the labor required to build a bigger boat, spend the extra dollars and get marine plywood.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:35 am 
Offline
Full Steam Ahead
Full Steam Ahead
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:34 am
Posts: 1492
Location: Phila PA USA
Boat Name: Margaret S.
The little boat is just about finished now, put the final coat of epoxy on the hull exterior today. I plan to use double kayak paddles, but my son is welding together a foot pedal powered set of sidewheel paddles. This mechanism will drop into the small boat and be clamped to the frames, and it will look very similar to the wheels of the bigger steamer.


Attachments:
CANOEINTERIOR.jpg
CANOEINTERIOR.jpg [ 47.71 KiB | Viewed 4532 times ]
CANOESTERN.jpg
CANOESTERN.jpg [ 38.49 KiB | Viewed 4532 times ]
CANOE.jpg
CANOE.jpg [ 38.92 KiB | Viewed 4532 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: New Plywood Sidewheeler Building
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:48 am 
Offline
Steam on Deck
Steam on Deck

Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:50 am
Posts: 50
Location: Central USA
Boat Name: To be determined
Fred-

The boat looks great.
Should be much fun to paddle.

_________________
Pat J


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 86 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group