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 Post subject: Rose launch by Selway Fisher
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:48 pm 
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Dear forum,

At the moment I am building a steam launch. The boiler and machine are already done.
The boat itself is also present (it’s actually a rowboat), but it still needs a lot of work. Like increasing the height, adding the ribs and creating the deck. The current boat is 4,40 meter (14’5”) by 1,38 meter (4’6”). The current lowest point is 44 centimeters (1’5”). Here is an image of said boat: https://i.imgur.com/zjJNJ7P.jpg

Keeping the amount of work in mind, my wife and I asked ourselves if it’s recommendable to continue working on this boat or not. If not, we’re interested in Selway-Fisher’s Rose model.

This boat is 5’3” and available in 2 widths; 6’2”and 5’.
The technical dates of the installation are: Engine: (compound) Bore 44 mm / 65 mm. Stroke 50mm
Vertical boiler: diameter 450 mm. Height 850 mm
Pressure 10 Bar Weight about 200 Kg empty

Is the Rose a good choice? And what width is more recommended. We’re with 4 adults.
We’re looking forward to your reply.

With kind regards,

Fam. H. Smit
The Netherlands


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 Post subject: Re: Rose launch by Selway Fisher
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:09 pm 
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A lot will depend on where you will sail it. Coastal, river or canal, but generally I would go with the broader beam for more stability. However that might be at a slight loss of speed dependent on how your 'hardware' performs.

I wish I was that far on! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Rose launch by Selway Fisher
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:34 pm 
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If you can manage it, put bricks/concrete blocks (any handy weight) approx where you expect the boiler, engine, and 4 adults will be. Try to float the hull somewhere safe calm and shallow with easy access.

You should get an pretty accurate answer to your question fairly quickly.

To me that hull looks small, but I am spoiled in this regard.

-CB


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 Post subject: Re: Rose launch by Selway Fisher
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:47 pm 
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The Selway Fisher Rose at 15 feet? That is more than likely too small for that boiler and four adults.

-Ron


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 Post subject: Re: Rose launch by Selway Fisher
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:33 pm 
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Apologies for the late reply!

Thank you for your recommendations and advice. Next spring I will continue working on the hull. I will try out the given advice as soon as possible.

Does anyone here know someone that has built the Rose? This way I can easily determine what the best cause of action is; modifying the current hull or building the Rose.


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 Post subject: Re: Rose launch by Selway Fisher
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:46 am 
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Han.Smit wrote:
Apologies for the late reply!

Thank you for your recommendations and advice. Next spring I will continue working on the hull. I will try out the given advice as soon as possible.

Does anyone here know someone that has built the Rose? This way I can easily determine what the best cause of action is; modifying the current hull or building the Rose.


Send an e-mail to Paul Fisher at Selway Fisher: he's a very sensible man, and knows a great deal more about boats than most of us have forgotten. I'm sure he'll have something helpful to say, and will know the capabilities of the "Rose" hull, and how it could be modified, better than anyone else. His charges for modifying an existing plan are, to my mind, rather modest.


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